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Stewardess ([info]stewardess) wrote,
@ 2008-03-13 02:46:00

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Entry tags:fandom: jumping ship, lj: 2007 pedophile witch-hunt, lj: adult content setting, lj: livejournal, lj: sponsored communities, lj: sup buyout

Nostalgia: LiveJournal's Greatest Fuck-Ups.
Since July, 2007, when I decided to migrate from LiveJournal to the bullshit-free land of InsaneJournal, folks have asked me, "Hey, Stewardess, aren't you worried the majority of fandom/porn writers/lolcat communities will stay at LiveJournal?"

My answer has always been: Nope, because I trust in LiveJournal's unfaltering ability to fuck over its customers and drive them away.

It's time for a nostalgic look at LiveJournal's greatest "We hate our users and love our advertisers" hits.

April, 2005: Blog Aggregation fiasco.
Highlight: Brad saying in a support request that illegal off-site archiving of fanfiction only mattered to a "couple of hundred" LJ users, although more than 40,000 had fanfiction listed as an interest at the time.
Trivia: The LJ staff member who got us an opt-out was Rahaeli, later blamed by ex-VP Berkowitz for Strikethrough 2007 in a stellar example of the buck not stopping here.

May, 2006: Nipple Gate. Contained, in miniature, all the elements of Strikethrough 2007: bizarre suspensions for violations not in the TOS; horrible customer service; crappy communication; pathetic ass-covering.
Highlight: Images of breastfeeding (even icon size!) are porn.
Trivia: Man boobs (even Arnie's!) are okay.

September, 2006: Sponsored Communities.
Highlight: The ravaging of the Science of Sleep community.
Trivia: Rahaeli was stuck with the Sisyphean task of moderating the community.

May-June, 2007: The Warriors for Innocence-inspired pedophile witch hunt, also known as Strikethrough 2007.
Highlight: Gosh, there are so many! I'd offer a poll to let you choose, but I've let my paid membership lapse. Suggestions:
1) Berkowitz blaming everything on Rahaeli.
2) Six Apart delaying a (sort of) clarification until after the permanent account sale.
3) An LJ staff member commenting, "It's not a crime to want to be thin," in reference to pro-anorexia communities.
4) Six Apart's code change, so suspended accounts appeared in bold instead of struckthrough, possibly the stupidest ass-covering in the history of the Intarweb.
Trivia: 6A had to briefly lift the suspensions of some alleged pedophiles because 6A apparently forgot it wasn't possible to find related accounts (such as those registered under the same email address) when accounts were in suspended status.

August, 2007: Suspension of Fandom Artists Without Warning for breaking guidelines LiveJournal hadn't bothered to describe in their terms of service.
Highlight: A LiveJournal staff member said an artist had been reported to the feds for child endangerment. Of Harry Potter. Don't worry, he's safe now.
Trivia: Ponderosa was disinclined to accept LiveJournal's invitation to return. Whoo!

November, 2007: The Snitch Tool, aka the flagging tool.
Highlight: None. It is too half-baked to have a highlight or trivia.

November, 2007: Adult Content Setting.
Highlight: LiveJournal wiping out years of fandom tradition (fan creation headings and warnings) in an instant.
Trivia: Thousands of 13-year-olds magically turned 18 the next day.

December, 2007: Six Apart sells LiveJournal to SUP.
Highlight: Putin.
Trivia: Medvedev.

December, 2007: The defective implementation of interest search blocking.
Highlight: The Holocaust never happened, according to 6A/SUP; genocide is not a searchable interest.
Trivia: The Spice Girls are no longer a blocked interest.

February, 2008: The Explore Area. Perhaps the final proof its owners have never figured out LiveJournal is used as a journal/diary, not a blog, by many members. When I went to the Explore Area seconds ago, an electronically selected post titled Can't be arsed to pack for spring break appeared under the heading Culture. The poster concluded: I'm doing pilates all spring break. Getting a bit... loose.
Highlight: None.
Trivia: All of it.

March, 2008: SUP/LiveJournal finally admits it will be/is policy to go after legal non-photographic images (also known as art) they find distasteful for reasons we are left to guess at.
Highlight: People rationalizing it (this stuff is illegal in Australia!).
Trivia: SUP/LiveJournal is not based in Australia.

March, 2008: No more ad-free (basic) accounts for new users.
Highlight: It's hard to say so early in the game, but this is pretty good: Jason Shellen, VP of Product Development for LiveJournal, says basic accounts went away because registration was too confusing. With only two options instead of three, users should no longer be confused!
Not trivial: This was disclosed by no_lj_ads, not LiveJournal, which only mumbled something about streamlining. Since 2006, I've sent folks interested in following LiveJournal's greed driven disasters to no_lj_ads. It does an outstanding job of customer advocacy.

Which event drove the most LiveJournal users away? So far, based on InsaneJournal membership statistics, the sale to SUP.

In December, 2007, when 6A announced the sale, InsaneJournal's membership doubled from 60,000 to 120,000 in a single month. Some of that was due to the slow death of GreatestJournal, but continued growth suggests Squeaky should send flowers and candy to 548 4th Street, San Francisco, California.

InsaneJournal membership as of May, 2007:
Total accounts: 31,943
Active in some way: 448
That have ever updated: 10,383
Updating in last 30 days: 244
Updating in last 7 days: 140
Updating in past 24 hours: 49

InsaneJournal membership as of today:
Total accounts: 177,955
Active in some way: 66,128
That have ever updated: 75,717
Updating in last 30 days: 33,567
Updating in last 7 days: 14,696
Updating in past 24 hours: 4,294

I look forward to checking IJ's stats a month from now.

I recognize, however, some people will never leave LiveJournal. Here are a few of the reasons.

1) Apathy. If you aren't particularly active on LiveJournal (six million members have never updated), you aren't going to make the effort to move somewhere else.

2) No time. Researching options, and migrating content, is not a small task.

3) Lack of options. Folks are reluctant to move to blogging platforms, such as InsaneJournal, essentially the same as LiveJournal (a commercial venture supported by advertising). They are waiting for, or building, a non-profit and fandom-operated archive and social networking site.

4) The belief that LiveJournal can be "saved." I have no comment.

Since the Blog Aggregation fiasco in 2005, I have ranted about LiveJournal's, 6A's, and now SUP's, major failing: customer service. Repeatedly, LiveJournal's owners have implemented ill-conceived code and policy changes without consulting users, and, especially fucking idiotic, without notifying users before, during, or after. I'm not leaving LiveJournal because of fandom, or porn, or Russian political censorship. I'm leaving it because LiveJournal treats us like shit.


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[info]stacia
2008-03-13 03:16 pm UTC (link)
Terrific post. I'm going to link to it, if you don't mind.

Thank the gods that Harry Potter is safe!

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nitachan, 2008-03-24 04:33 am UTC

[info]cocoajava
2008-03-13 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Could I add a reason 5? None of the other reasons apply to me. I would happily move all my activity over to IJ in a heartbeat, but I cannot drag my friends list over with me.

I'm not talking about casual fandom friends - these are some deep relationships that go back fifteen years, in many cases, and my wish to stay connected with these people is very strong. I've spoken with my friends about this. They don't want to move. I can't force the issue.

And so I crosspost, and exist in both journals. But I do want to make it clear that I don't stay because of any loyalty to LJ. I just don't want anyone assuming that. It's not true.

I will send a link to this post to that group. Thank you. Maybe they'll start to bend.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cocoajava, 2008-03-14 03:13 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-03-16 05:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kuiskata, 2008-03-17 07:28 am UTC

[info]techno_goddess
2008-03-13 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Great post. I'm here because of [info]davensjournal. Adding you too! I'm rather partial to cat squee myself.

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(no subject) - [info]blktauna, 2008-03-13 06:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:25 am UTC

[info]the_reverand
2008-03-13 06:18 pm UTC (link)
THis is great. The trivia especially. ^ ^

But I have to agree with cocoajava, there should be a #5 and it should be "Friends". I still sometimes feel like a dick for moving to IJ, as if those friendships are so trivial that I can just leave them behind. But I haven't, really. And I guess if I really wanted to divorce myself fom LJ I could close my account and comment anon but that's a hassle in itself.

There could possibly also be a #6, which would be wider audience. There's more people on LJ to read your opinions, fic, whatever. Even you crosspost these fuckup reports. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but it's more than a little discouraging knowing that you'd be cutting out that many people, esp if your goal is to be heard by as many as possible.

There's probably some politics-oriented quote about making use of the enemy's platform/forum/whatever if it means being heard by more people. But. Um. I'm not smart enough to know it.

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(no subject) - [info]cocoajava, 2008-03-13 08:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:38 am UTC

[info]pen
2008-03-13 06:57 pm UTC (link)
I'm with everyone else. I have stayed solely because of friendships, and a community I run that I cannot just move here.

This is the last round of the comm for me, and if [info]mercury_chaos is correct about Beacon, very soon the end of my time on LJ.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:39 am UTC
From my comment on ljspeaks - [info]pen, 2008-03-14 02:45 am UTC
Re: From my comment on ljspeaks - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 03:35 am UTC
Re: From my comment on ljspeaks - [info]greenwitch, 2008-03-14 10:22 am UTC
Re: From my comment on ljspeaks - [info]pen, 2008-03-14 10:30 am UTC
Re: From my comment on ljspeaks - [info]greenwitch, 2008-03-14 07:02 pm UTC
Re: From my comment on ljspeaks - [info]pen, 2008-03-14 07:04 pm UTC
Re: From my comment on ljspeaks - [info]greenwitch, 2008-03-14 07:05 pm UTC
Re: From my comment on ljspeaks - [info]pen, 2008-03-14 10:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mercurychaos, 2008-03-14 11:50 am UTC

[info]branchandroot
2008-03-13 09:41 pm UTC (link)
*brightly* Wow, three years of this BS already? Time flies when your provider is screwing you over.

I am entirely in agreement that the worst offenses are customer service ones. If they could just be bothered to communicate changes in a timely and non schizoid fashion... well, I'd still have left when they got to the flagging, but I'd have been a lot less bitter about it.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:40 am UTC

[info]ponderosa121
2008-03-13 11:11 pm UTC (link)
Ahaha. Oh, LJ.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:41 am UTC

[info]louvedegaule
2008-03-14 12:08 am UTC (link)
Strikethrough '07 = Good times indeed

After being stranded in a German airport overnight, I get home to find out all of my accounts have been suspended. Someone up there does not like me. :(

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]msilverstar, 2008-03-14 11:46 am UTC

[info]empink
2008-03-14 12:31 am UTC (link)
I agree with the other 5)s suggested-- flists and the reluctance to leave them will be big factors for many people.

After a couple months of aimlessly trying out other blogging/content-hosting services that look good, though, I'd also like to second 3), and add that the network effect also plays a part. If there was a service that everyone seemed to be flocking to that seemed adequate to fannish needs, everyone would be going there. But there isn't yet, apart from all of the decentralized techie advances that have been going on, and it takes time and energy and motivation to tie all of those into a suitable package for yourself.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-14 02:50 am UTC

[info]msilverstar
2008-03-14 11:50 am UTC (link)
I am so linking to this.

The breastfeeding one, about default icons, of all things, is one of the more OMGWTFPolarBear experiences of my life, online or off.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 12:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]earthlingmike, 2008-03-25 12:49 am UTC

[info]simons_flower
2008-03-14 12:55 pm UTC (link)
Last August, I decided I'd mirror my content at Insane Journal. I have a permanent account at LJ, bought back in 2005, so I won't be leaving there until they kick me off, but I'm not pleased by their behavior, hence my IJ. And since IJ is here and I'm so happy about it, within the week of opening my account, I bought a Permanently Insane account, which was a hell of a lot less expensive than my LJ account.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 12:54 am UTC

[info]maureenlycaon
2008-03-14 01:02 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for this -- added a link to it in my header post on LiveJournal, for people who might wonder why I've moved the center of my operations over here.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 01:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]maureenlycaon, 2008-03-15 04:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 02:17 am UTC

[info]dragyn
2008-03-14 01:42 pm UTC (link)
Excellent post, thanks for providing this list of quick points of LJ/6A/SUP asshattery. I will be pointing it out to my flists.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 04:03 am UTC

[info]madlodger
2008-03-14 03:55 pm UTC (link)
What an excellent post :)
It should be sub-titled: "How not to do business on the net.", LOL

I still have a vintage (basic) account at LJ which is mirroring my IJ. Staying around because of f-list, like many others. But IJ is where I spend most of my time these days :)

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 04:04 am UTC

[info]rubyfruit_pixie
2008-03-14 07:11 pm UTC (link)
Best Post Ever. :D

...Can I link this plox?

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 04:05 am UTC

[info]pen
2008-03-14 09:11 pm UTC (link)
BTW, I've added you.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 04:08 am UTC

[info]amorettea
2008-03-14 09:20 pm UTC (link)
This is exactly what I keep saying. I left LJ because of CRAPPY CUSTOMER SERVICE. Period. When a company routinely lies to its customers, changes the rules without notice and then punishes the customer for violations the customer didn't know they were committing and generally behaves as if the customer were an annoyance, I do not do business with that company. Porn didn't enter into it. Idiotic behavior did.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 04:12 am UTC

[info]duet_chan
2008-03-14 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Nicely worded and presented.
Linking this at my LJ for my flist to (hopefully) read, if you don't mind.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 04:13 am UTC

[info]boondock_girl
2008-03-15 01:30 am UTC (link)
My GOD. What a fucking flea circus that was (and still is). Has it been that long??? I've never enjoyed letting a subscription lapse so much.

Honestly, I'm surprised all my shit is still up. Is it because it's locked?

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 04:16 am UTC

[info]akai_senshi
2008-03-15 03:50 am UTC (link)
For the win.

Much love to you for this!!

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 04:17 am UTC

[info]kaika_kaika
2008-03-15 12:23 pm UTC (link)
You know, it wouldn't have been so 'confusing' to sign up at LJ if they didn't automatically give you a plus account even though you chose a paid account...That happened to me several times.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-15 01:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kaika_kaika, 2008-03-15 09:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ratcreature, 2008-03-16 03:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kaika_kaika, 2008-03-16 03:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ratcreature, 2008-03-16 03:58 am UTC

[info]joketsu
2008-03-15 04:44 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for this. No, really, thank you. This will bring so much to light for so many people.

And shit, I knew about everything but the first incident you listed. I read your entry on it and went to that Bloglines site and found I had been archived there. Very little of my stuff was there but I sent a removal request the second I searched my username.

I jumped ship and am in the process of moving the hell out of here. For fandom, for friends, for me, for every reason. I cannot support this tyranny.

I knew that Russian buyout was a bad omen.

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(no subject) - [info]joketsu, 2008-03-15 04:46 pm UTC

[info]the_obscure
2008-03-16 02:03 am UTC (link)
Thank you. Now when I find I can't explain to people why LJ sucks (because I start sputtering and flailing and screaming incoherently), I have a clear simple link to give. Thank you once more, with feeling.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-03-17 05:49 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-03-17 05:51 am UTC

[info]ratcreature
2008-03-16 03:31 am UTC (link)
This was disclosed by no_lj_ads, not LiveJournal, which only mumbled something about streamlining.

Though didn't the official Russian language news comm announce the change in their version of the news post before it happened? I read some Babelfish translation of that somewhere, and that said the free accounts would be discontinued plainly. (Perhaps unsurprisingly the Babelfish translation from Russian was not noticeably more incoherent than the usual LJ communication...)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-03-17 05:51 am UTC

[info]mythicdove
2008-03-16 06:15 am UTC (link)
I am still so glad I moved off LJ last summer.

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(no subject) - [info]stewardess, 2008-03-18 03:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aimee.mychores.co.uk, 2008-03-19 03:05 pm UTC

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